Testers rate Gemini 4 Carbon above Argon at 3D work

Users on X say that Google prepares Gemini 4 Carbon, the next model after Gemini 4 Argon. Argon went to all users one week before. The users say an access group started and a release is very near. Google gave no comment on these reports. The reports are not tests, and the users are not Google staff.

What testers say

One tester says Carbon is less lazy than Argon. A different tester says it has noticeably higher quality in a 3D pagoda test. These testers say the frontend and the user interface output is weak.

The numbers

One tester says Carbon takes two to four times more time, by task. The reports use arena matchups and prompts that the testers select. They are not benchmarks. No one knows which checkpoint the testers get.

What is not known

Google gave no release date, no test result and no price. Its terms for testers say that models not released must stay private.

Insight: Google ships fast, and its tester rules leak

Google added 3 layers of protection to Argon, because its tests show more cyber and biology function. Carbon is at this time with external testers who post outputs on X against the private rule. This reads as a competition for speed, and Google has less control of the first report on its model. Builders must wait for tests by Google.